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Title: BeerSmith 3 Announced - Preorder open
Post by: BeerSmith on June 01, 2018, 12:21:09 PM
BeerSmith 3 is coming soon - planned release before Homebrewcon (end of June 2018).

Here's the quick look - more to come along with the preorder in the next few days:
   http://beersmith.com/blog/2018/06/01/beersmith-3-a-first-look/

Cheers,
Brad
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3 Announced
Post by: BeerSmith on June 03, 2018, 12:04:12 PM
More details and also the preorder is open now:
  - You can preorder here: http://beersmith.com/order
  - A detailed look at features: http://beersmith.com/beersmith-3-features/
  - Licensing options: http://beersmith.com/beersmith-3-licensing-explained/

Thanks,
Brad Smith
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3 Announced - Preorder open
Post by: Ck27 on June 03, 2018, 10:08:16 PM
Eh, i wont be buying it for a while. I had hoped i would get a upgrade along with a lot of people.

Love beersmith, just dont like paying for upgrades.
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3 Announced - Preorder open
Post by: Dyrdlingur on June 03, 2018, 11:22:03 PM
"Existing Gold/Platinum/Professional Members ? Have automatically had a BeerSmith 3 license installed in their cloud account for their current term."

Thank you Brad
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3 Announced - Preorder open
Post by: BOB357 on June 04, 2018, 03:44:11 AM
Will you be offering a test drive once BS 3 is released?
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3 Announced - Preorder open
Post by: orenb on June 04, 2018, 02:28:41 PM
From the announcement:

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Older BeerSmith 2 Licenses: We are offering a substantial pre-order discount on BeerSmith 3 now. I believe most existing users can find an affordable plan below.

Is the pricing of upgrades for existing users of BeerSmith 2  the same as that available to anyone else? That's a bit unusual, not to say disappointing. Normally prices of software upgrades are less expensive than licenses for first time customers, even during promotions.
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3 Announced - Preorder open
Post by: Oginme on June 04, 2018, 05:28:19 PM

Is the pricing of upgrades for existing users of BeerSmith 2  the same as that available to anyone else? That's a bit unusual, not to say disappointing. Normally prices of software upgrades are less expensive than licenses for first time customers, even during promotions.

Can you give some examples?  The only ones that I can think of is Microsoft  -- but they are so outrageously expensive that they need to in order to encourage their users to upgrade. 
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3 Announced - Preorder open
Post by: orenb on June 05, 2018, 11:16:05 AM
I can give you two examples. Corel PaintShop Pro and DxO PhotoLab (previously DxO Optics Pro). I upgrade both about every other version and I always do it when there's a promotion. The promotion always offers two prices (for new customers and for upgrades) and both are discounted.

Edit: PaintShop Pro has a promotion right now, and guess what? There are discount prices for both new customers and upgrades, with the latter of course being cheaper. https://www.paintshoppro.com/en/products/paintshop-pro/
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3 Announced - Preorder open
Post by: jcl on June 05, 2018, 07:04:52 PM
How do activations work? I preordered a BeerSmith 3 license but do not own BeerSmith 2. Can I use BeerSmith 2 while I wait (trial already over)?
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3 Announced - Preorder open
Post by: Oginme on June 06, 2018, 06:01:00 AM
I can give you two examples. Corel PaintShop Pro and DxO PhotoLab (previously DxO Optics Pro). I upgrade both about every other version and I always do it when there's a promotion. The promotion always offers two prices (for new customers and for upgrades) and both are discounted.

Edit: PaintShop Pro has a promotion right now, and guess what? There are discount prices for both new customers and upgrades, with the latter of course being cheaper. https://www.paintshoppro.com/en/products/paintshop-pro/

I understand your point.  When it comes to programs that sell for well over $100, the 20% discount can be a substantial savings.  Honestly, I am not begrudging spending $5 more for a versatile program that is already pretty low cost.  I'll skip buying overpriced coffee twice and settle with sipping on the office swill for a couple of days to make up for it.
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3 Announced - Preorder open
Post by: BeerSmith on June 06, 2018, 09:44:50 AM
How do activations work? I preordered a BeerSmith 3 license but do not own BeerSmith 2. Can I use BeerSmith 2 while I wait (trial already over)?
Send me a note and I'll send you a temporary activation to BeerSmith 2 to carry you over.

Brad
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3 Announced - Preorder open
Post by: BeerSmith on June 06, 2018, 09:52:59 AM
Is the pricing of upgrades for existing users of BeerSmith 2  the same as that available to anyone else? That's a bit unusual, not to say disappointing. Normally prices of software upgrades are less expensive than licenses for first time customers, even during promotions.
I looked at the possibility of having a discounted price for existing users, but in actual implementation it looked a bit complex as you would have had to log in, enter your BeerSmith 2 key, and then go to the actual checkout.  Possible, but not sure it would be entirely worth it given the lower price points on the new version and complexity it would add to the checkout flow.

Instead I decided to have a preorder and also sale pricing after the launch to give everyone a chance to upgrade at a good price.  I also gave free upgrades to all Gold+ members for their remaining term and anyone who purchased in the last 9 months.

As others have pointed out, even the gold subscription is less than the cost of two cups of coffee at Starbucks a year.  Not a bad deal.

Brad
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3 Announced - Preorder open
Post by: Ck27 on June 06, 2018, 01:09:11 PM
Is the pricing of upgrades for existing users of BeerSmith 2  the same as that available to anyone else? That's a bit unusual, not to say disappointing. Normally prices of software upgrades are less expensive than licenses for first time customers, even during promotions.
I looked at the possibility of having a discounted price for existing users, but in actual implementation it looked a bit complex as you would have had to log in, enter your BeerSmith 2 key, and then go to the actual checkout.  Possible, but not sure it would be entirely worth it given the lower price points on the new version and complexity it would add to the checkout flow.

Instead I decided to have a preorder and also sale pricing after the launch to give everyone a chance to upgrade at a good price.  I also gave free upgrades to all Gold+ members for their remaining term and anyone who purchased in the last 9 months.

As others have pointed out, even the gold subscription is less than the cost of two cups of coffee at Starbucks a year.  Not a bad deal.

Brad

I purchased I last 9 months according to the bill I have in my email still. So shouldn't I get a key free?
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3 Announced - Preorder open
Post by: BeerSmith on June 06, 2018, 10:53:43 PM
Those who purchased after 15 Oct 17 can check for an upgrade here: https://beersmithrecipes.com/upgrade2

If you have problems just drop me a message as there are some third party keys from recent purchases not in the automated system.

Brad
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3 Announced - Preorder open
Post by: Zermatt on June 07, 2018, 04:43:46 PM
Hello Brad,

Thank you for the opportunity to get new version of Beersmith at lower price.
Please let me know, can I deactivate Beersmith on one PC, and then activate it on another PC?
I'm asking because now I want to install Beersmith on my desktop PC and laptop, and later this year I want to switch my desktop PC to a newer one.

Cheers,
Yuri.
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3 Announced - Preorder open
Post by: oteixeira on June 10, 2018, 06:24:52 AM
Brad,

   I just received email because my cloud account is going to expire.  I run on Linux, and would be fine paying for the upgrade if you tell me the Linux version will be released WITH the Windows/Mac versions, and not some time down the road. 

Please let me know,

Orlando
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3 Announced - Preorder open
Post by: raybilyk on June 15, 2018, 12:44:08 PM
It's like Christmas morning... I can't wait!!! Pre-order purchased!
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3 Announced - Preorder open
Post by: Toy4Rick on June 15, 2018, 01:30:42 PM
Hi Zermatt,

Most SW licenses are geared towards a single user, in this case you and Brad has indicated in the past that 2 devices for the same user is fine.  Now this does not apply to Mobile and Desktop or Mac and PC since the licensing models are different

Rick
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3 Announced - Preorder open
Post by: Wowzors on June 16, 2018, 11:55:20 AM
Will there be a mobile release for 3 later down the road?
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3 Announced - Preorder open
Post by: BeerSmith on June 16, 2018, 03:03:29 PM
The mobile release for BeerSmith Mobile V3 is planned for late July.

Brad
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3 Announced - Preorder open
Post by: BongoYodeler on June 16, 2018, 09:09:20 PM
I'm interested in buying the Ubuntu Linux version 3 when it is available in July. However I see the pre-order discount expires at the end of June.
Am I able to pre-order the Linux version now, during the discount period? If so, how?
If not, will a discount price be available closer to the release date of the Linux version?
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3 Announced - Preorder open
Post by: BongoYodeler on June 20, 2018, 10:05:31 PM
I'm interested in buying the Ubuntu Linux version 3 when it is available in July. However I see the pre-order discount expires at the end of June.
Am I able to pre-order the Linux version now, during the discount period? If so, how?
If not, will a discount price be available closer to the release date of the Linux version?

Bump?