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Title: Imperial IPA/Imperial Red Ale
Post by: HoppyDaze on November 30, 2018, 04:25:53 PM
Been looking at trying to create a Imperial Red Ale and Imperial IPA but I can not find neither on where you choose the style. Would anyone know what style I would use for either one on beersmith 3.  Thank You
Title: Re: Imperial IPA/Imperial Red Ale
Post by: Oginme on November 30, 2018, 06:52:45 PM
Imperial IPA is recognized as a Double IPA in the BJCP guidelines.  For imperial red ale, I would look at the AABC guidelines to see if there is one listed there.  In the BJCP guidelines, it would fit under Specialty IPA category.
Title: Re: Imperial IPA/Imperial Red Ale
Post by: brewfun on December 01, 2018, 10:31:55 AM
It depends on your definition of "Imperial" or "Double." The category of "Imperial Anything" says alcohol starts at 8%. Statistically, "Double" just means between +30% to outright double the alcohol of the base style, then dryhopped. I round that to 50% more than the mean level alcohol of any style. My "Imperial Pilsner" is 6%, lower than the guidelines, but that's where it tastes right.

Imperial Red Ale cuts across several potential styles. Hoppy? Then Oginme's suggestion works. Boozy? Then it might fit better as a Barleywine. Many classic English Barleywines fit the red color (Old Nick).

Style guidelines shouldn't define your beer. Guidelines are created from what brewers make and want to repeat. Guidelines are best when they provide direction and education to brew, then feedback about how well you can hit a target, once brewed.
Title: Re: Imperial IPA/Imperial Red Ale
Post by: Oginme on December 02, 2018, 11:32:28 AM
For reference, the 2015 BJCP guidelines equate Imperial IPA with the Double IPA, not that they are the be all or end all of beer styles. 

Another option for the 'imperial red' if you are not looking at an IPA variant is to look at the American Strong guideline (BJCP 2015 22b), which is broad enough to cover a higher alcohol level beer without the focus on hops.

In the end, do as Brewfun suggests and don't worry too much about specific styles if you have something in mind for recipe development.  Unless you are specifically looking to enter the beer into competition, brew for what you want.