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DMS

Broohoose

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The last two lighter styles I have brewed (an amber and a Scottish 40) seem to have the same flavor that I guess could be described as corny.  After boiling for 65 minutes, I turn off the heat, stir to whirlpool, then cover for 20 minutes before pumping through the counterflow.  Should I not cover after whirlpool, boil longer, or punt.  I get awesome trub/hop cones on the false bottom, so I think that part is right.  Also, I am a sanitation geek so I don't think that is the source.  Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
Ross
 
DMS can occur from a weak boil.  If you have a righteous rolling boil, most of those DMS chemicals literally evaporate.  How would describe your boil.  Some brewers with small pots limit there boil vigor to prevent those nasty boil over's but at the expense of DMS.

cheers
 
Broohoose said:
...have the same flavor that I guess could be described as corny.  After boiling for 65 minutes, I turn off the heat, stir to whirlpool, then cover for 20 minutes before pumping through the counterflow.  Should I not cover after whirlpool, boil longer, or punt. 

All malt has the pre-cursor to DMS, which is then formed when heated above 140F.  So,

  • Full, rolling boils >60 mins (90 mins for pale lager malts)
  • Boil uncovered, and do not cover the wort during chilling until it is well below 120F, as DMS is still being formed from 212F down to ~140F, and possibly dripping back into wort with condensation off lid


Could you adopt some type s/s scrubby thing in the boiler so that you didn't have to whirlpool hot wort (hot-side aeration risk) and also wait 20 minutes to start chilling?  It's generally preferred to whirlpool chilled wort. 
 
Thanks for the tips. guys.  I always boil with the pot uncovered and I get between 10-12% evaporation, so I think the boil is good.  I will definitely be boiling the 90 minutes and leaving the pot uncovered while I am chilling.  One more question, I have a false bottom (from N. Brewer for Sankes) in my boil kettle, so do I even need to stir to whirlpool after the boil before I pump it through the counterflow chiller?

You guys are a great resource.  Much appreciated.

Ross
 
Broohoose said:
One more question, I have a false bottom (from N. Brewer for Sankes) in my boil kettle, so do I even need to stir to whirlpool after the boil before I pump it through the counterflow chiller?

I do it b/c I drain from the side valve, but I have friends that drain from the center, beneath a false bottom or braid, and they like the "cone" of debris that forms over the drain.  The big stuff falls first and helps to filter the rest. 
 
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