Honey Brown or Newcastle

Is there a recipe for Honey Brown or Newcastle clone floating around here in BS format? Maybe I'm not using the correct search.

Or if you have a Honey Brown or Newcastle recipe I would love it. Thanks!

I was able to find some info and came up with my version of a Honey Brown recipe. What do ya think??:

8.50 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 77.27 %
0.75 lb Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain 6.82 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 4.55 %
0.50 lb Honey Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 4.55 %
0.25 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 2.27 %
0.25 lb Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 2.27 %
1.00 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (60 min) Hops 15.5 IBU
1.00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (15 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -  
0.25 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc  
10.00 gm Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 min) Misc  
0.25 lb Honey (1.0 SRM) Sugar 2.27 %
5.00 gal Deer Park (R), Bottled Water Water  
1 Pkgs London Ale (Wyeast Labs #1028) [Starter 125 ml] Yeast-Ale  

What would you change with this Newcastle mimick? This is another Ziggy-modification:

Amount Item Type % or IBU
6.00 lb Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 71.60 %
0.50 lb Special Roast (50.0 SRM) Grain 5.97 %
0.50 lb Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 5.97 %
0.25 lb Amber Malt (22.0 SRM) Grain 2.98 %
0.25 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 2.98 %
0.25 lb Caravienne Malt (22.0 SRM) Grain 2.98 %
0.25 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 2.98 %
0.25 lb Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain 2.98 %
0.13 lb Brown Malt (65.0 SRM) Grain 1.55 %
1.00 oz Liberty [4.30 %] (60 min) Hops 16.3 IBU
0.75 oz Liberty [4.30 %] (20 min) Hops 7.4 IBU
0.25 oz Liberty [4.30 %] (5 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -  
1 Pkgs London Ale (Wyeast Labs #1028) [Starter 125 ml] Yeast-Ale  

Looks OK to me.  If you like the "nutty" aspect of the Northern Brown style, then look at Naked Golden Oats.  They really add that flavor with only a couple ounces. 

The combined six oz of chocolate and brown may give you more roasted character than expected.  Dunno.

On the Honey recipe, honey malt is very potent.  Half pound is lot, and it's a sweetness that doesn't fade quickly. 

Is that really 10 grams of gypsum?  I don't know your water, but my water has 11 ppm of sulfate, and I seldom add more than a gram or two on a hoppy ale.  I added 0.5 gm gypsum on my last 11C. 

Wow those are good suggestions and warnings. I'm just beginning to brew AG from doing extracts and PMs. I love how you can balance and play with every flavor aspect.

I will back off on the honey malt and chocolate/brown. It sounds like I would have overdone it a bit. 
I will also try the naked golden oats as well. Now to go shopping. 

Has anyone tried replacing the priming sugar with Honey?

Norton said:

Has anyone tried replacing the priming sugar with Honey?

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Nope, not yet. All I can tell you is that there is a trace of honey taste with this recipe when adding honey just before flameout. Next time I will add more. Here is what was actually brewed with what was on-hand.

I've read that the small amount needed for priming may not be enough to taste the honey, others disagree.  The theory has not been tested in my brewery. 
Here is the "actual" Brew:

Taste Notes: A little too hoppy for most folks. However, after an additional two weeks in the keg, the hop flavors mellowed into a smooth, awesome beer. Next time I want to try more honey. This is pobably my favorite batch out of thirty or more.


9.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 77.85 %
0.75 lb Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain 6.49 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 4.33 %
0.31 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 2.68 %
0.31 lb Honey Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 2.68 %
0.31 lb Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 2.68 %
1.00 oz Williamette [4.80 %] (60 min) Hops 14.6 IBU
0.50 oz Whitbread Golding Variety (WGV) [4.50 %] (40 min) Hops 6.0 IBU
1.00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (15 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops - 
0.25 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc 
1.00 tsp Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 min) Misc 
0.38 lb Honey (1.0 SRM) Sugar 3.29 %
1 Pkgs London Ale (Wyeast Labs #1028) [Starter 125 ml] Yeast-Ale