I'm trying to figure out what is best for an American Amber. I think I'm leaning toward Victory. My last amber I made with biscuit and it just wasn't quite as good as the one I made before with actual amber malt. it was still good but just lacked that Wow factor. I also made another substitution that is slipping my mind at the moment, I'll have to wait till I get home to see but I think it had something to do with subbing something for extra dark crystal (I think it was special B). Again, not sure what made the difference in flavor between the two ambers