{"id":7497,"date":"2017-12-27T16:03:31","date_gmt":"2017-12-27T21:03:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/?p=7497"},"modified":"2017-12-27T16:03:31","modified_gmt":"2017-12-27T21:03:31","slug":"cream-ale-with-curt-stock-beersmith-podcast-162","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/2017\/12\/27\/cream-ale-with-curt-stock-beersmith-podcast-162\/","title":{"rendered":"Cream Ale with Curt Stock- BeerSmith Podcast #162"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"float: right; margin-left: 10px;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/share\" class=\"twitter-share-button\" data-via=\"beersmith\" data-count=\"vertical\" data-url=\"https:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/2017\/12\/27\/cream-ale-with-curt-stock-beersmith-podcast-162\/\">Tweet<\/a><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/BSRadio.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-4549 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/BSRadio-300x200.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/BSRadio-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/BSRadio.jpg 448w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Curt Stock joins me this week to discuss brewing the perfect Cream Ale and a little bit about fruit meads.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Subscribe on iTunes to <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/beersmith-home-beer-brewing\/id398500515?mt=2\">Audio version <\/a>or <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/beersmith-home-beer-brewing\/id824963861\">Video version<\/a> or on <a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/app\/playmusic?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&amp;isi=691797987&amp;ius=googleplaymusic&amp;link=https:\/\/play.google.com\/music\/m\/Iphebe3merhgcijzboixy7t27ky?t%3DBeerSmith_Home_and_Beer_Brewing_Podcast\">Google Play<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/beersmith\/BSHB-162-Cream-Ale.mp3\">Download the MP3 File<\/a> &#8211; Right Click and <strong>Save As<\/strong> to download this mp3 file<\/p>\n[audio:http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/beersmith\/BSHB-162-Cream-Ale.mp3]\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/yjgmXsnIpn0\" width=\"853\" height=\"480\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h3>Topics in This Week&#8217;s Episode (34:12)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Today my guest is Curt Stock. Curt is a former American Homebrewer&#8217;s Association Governing Committee member and was also the 2005 mead maker of the year. Curt is a member of the St Paul Homebrewer&#8217;s Club and last appeared way back in episode #20.<\/li>\n<li>Curt begins with a description of the Cream Ale beer style &#8211; it is a very drinkable light ale similar in some ways to a Koelsch.<\/li>\n<li>We talk about Genessee Cream Ale from Rochester as well as a few other commercial examples like Spotted Cow.<\/li>\n<li>Curt shares his thoughts on the history of Cream Ale and how it evolved as a pre-prohibition response to the rise of light lagers. It was once called &#8220;present use&#8221; ale and also has some roots back to Koelsch.<\/li>\n<li>We talk about the grain bill extensively which includes typically pale ale and as much as 20% corn or rice adjuncts.<\/li>\n<li>The corn\/rice really don&#8217;t add much of a creamy finish (which comes from the yeast) but instead will lighten the beer and add alcohol but not much flavor.<\/li>\n<li>Curt tells us his own formula for cream ale which is about 80% pilsner malt and 20% flaked corn.<\/li>\n<li>We discuss the best mash schedule. Curt prefers a low temperature mash while I suggest a &#8220;lager&#8221; mash where you have steps both at low and high temps to maximize fermentability.<\/li>\n<li>We talk about hop schedules and the low IBU level (usually around 15 IBUs) for a cream ale, as well as why whirlpool and dry hopping may not be appropriate for this style.<\/li>\n<li>We discuss the importance of yeast. Curt recommends Wyeast 1056, while I explain my experiments with White labs Cream Ale yeast in cider.<\/li>\n<li>Curt shares his thoughts on fermenting out and finishing a cream ale including a fairly high carbonation level. Curt also likes to filter his cream ales.<\/li>\n<li>We talk about bottling\/aging a cream ale though it is intended to be consumed quickly after finishing.<\/li>\n<li>Curt shares his final thoughts on cream ale.<\/li>\n<li>We spend a few minutes talking about big fruit meads as well as how those lessons may be applied to making fruit beers.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3>Sponsors<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Thank you to our sponsor <a href=\"http:\/\/beerandbrewing.com\">Craft Beer and Brewing Magazine<\/a> for sponsoring this episode. I encourage you to subscribe to their great magazine!<\/li>\n<li>And also <a href=\"http:\/\/anvilbrewing.com\">Anvil Brewing Equipment<\/a>. Anvil is a new line of kettles, burners and accessories from John Blichmann at Blichmann Engineering. They make top quality brewing equipment built to last a lifetime.<\/li>\n<li>Also check out <a href=\"http:\/\/beersmith.com\">BeerSmith<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/beersmith.com\/mobile\">BeerSmith Mobile software<\/a> and the <a href=\"http:\/\/beersmith.com\/dvd\">new DVDs John Palmer and I filmed<\/a> &#8211; How to Brew with Malt Extract and How to Brew All Grain are available now. You can <a href=\"https:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/subscribe\/\">subscribe to the BeerSmith newsletter<\/a> for free to get some great articles on home brewing.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Thanks to Curt Stock for appearing on the show and also to you for listening!<\/p>\n<p><strong>iTunes Announcements<\/strong>: I launched a new <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/beersmith-home-beer-brewing\/id824963861\">video channel for the BeerSmith podcast on iTunes<\/a>, so subscribe now! At the moment it will only feature the new widescreen episodes (#75 and up). Older episodes are available on my revamped <a href=\"http:\/\/youtube.com\/mrbeersmith\">Youtube channel<\/a>. Also all of my <a href=\"http:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/podcast\/beersmith-home-brewing-blog\/id398500515\">audio episodes are on iTunes<\/a> now &#8211; so grab the older episodes if you missed any.<\/p>\n<h3>Thoughts on the Podcast?<\/h3>\n<p>Leave me a comment below or visit our <a href=\"http:\/\/beersmith.com\/forum\">discussion forum<\/a> to leave a comment in the podcast section there.<\/p>\n<h3>Subscribe to the Podcast on iTunes or BeerSmith Radio<\/h3>\n<p>You can listen to all of my podcast episodes streaming live around the clock on our <a href=\"http:\/\/BeerSmith.com\/Radio\">BeerSmith Radio<\/a> online radio station! 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