{"id":8023,"date":"2018-11-09T11:04:21","date_gmt":"2018-11-09T16:04:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/?p=8023"},"modified":"2018-11-09T11:04:21","modified_gmt":"2018-11-09T16:04:21","slug":"drink-beer-think-beer-with-john-holl-beersmith-podcast-181","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/2018\/11\/09\/drink-beer-think-beer-with-john-holl-beersmith-podcast-181\/","title":{"rendered":"Drink Beer, Think Beer with John Holl &#8211; BeerSmith Podcast #181"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"float: right; margin-left: 10px;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/share\" class=\"twitter-share-button\" data-via=\"beersmith\" data-count=\"vertical\" data-url=\"https:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/2018\/11\/09\/drink-beer-think-beer-with-john-holl-beersmith-podcast-181\/\">Tweet<\/a><\/div>\n<p>This week John Holl joins me to discuss the Craft Beer revolution and also his new book &#8220;Drink Beer, Think Beer&#8221;.<a href=\"https:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/PodNew200.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-4522\" src=\"https:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/PodNew200.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/PodNew200.png 200w, https:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/PodNew200-150x150.png 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Subscribe on iTunes to <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/beersmith-home-beer-brewing\/id398500515?mt=2\">Audio version <\/a>or <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/beersmith-home-beer-brewing\/id824963861\">Video version<\/a> or on <a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/app\/playmusic?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&amp;isi=691797987&amp;ius=googleplaymusic&amp;link=https:\/\/play.google.com\/music\/m\/Iphebe3merhgcijzboixy7t27ky?t%3DBeerSmith_Home_and_Beer_Brewing_Podcast\">Google Play<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/beersmith\/BSHB-181-Think-Beer.mp3\">Download the MP3 File<\/a> &#8211; Right Click and <strong>Save As<\/strong> to download this mp3 file<\/p>\n[audio:http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/beersmith\/BSHB-181-Think-Beer.mp3]\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/W2xDwZtpyy0\" width=\"853\" height=\"480\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h3>Topics in This Week&#8217;s Episode (49:36)<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Today my guest is John Holl, author of the new book <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2PJd3b4\">Drink Beer, Think Beer<\/a> (Amazon affiliate link). John is also senior editor at Craft Beer and Brewing magazine and author of <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2DqfCcc\">The American Craft Beer Cookbook<\/a> (Amazon affiliate links) as well as a beer judge.<\/li>\n<li>We discuss his work as editor at Craft Beer and Magazine as well as introduce his new book &#8220;Think Beer, Drink Beer&#8221;.<\/li>\n<li>John explains a bit of the history of the modern beer renaissance (craft beer revolution) and also how critical home brewing was to it.<\/li>\n<li>We talk about the role of big breweries and how the line between craft beer and big beer is increasingly blurred by the complex ownership relationships now.<\/li>\n<li>We discuss beer flavors and how flavor has a significant role in craft beer.<\/li>\n<li>I bring up the dominance of IPAs and we discuss whether it will continue to force other styles off the shelf.<\/li>\n<li>We discuss judging and tasting beer.<\/li>\n<li>John talks about some of the down sides of the craft beer revolution (shadows in beer).<\/li>\n<li>He explains how the way we enjoy beer in tasting rooms has evolved and contrasts that with beer at home.<\/li>\n<li>We talk about the &#8220;death of subtlety&#8221; in beer.<\/li>\n<li>John discusses the leveling off of growth in craft beer and how it may be part of the normal business cycle.<\/li>\n<li>He shares his closing thoughts.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3>Sponsors<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Thank you to our sponsor <a href=\"http:\/\/beerandbrewing.com\">Craft Beer and Brewing Magazine<\/a> for sponsoring this episode. I encourage you to subscribe to their great magazine!<\/li>\n<li>And also <a href=\"http:\/\/anvilbrewing.com\">Anvil Brewing Equipment<\/a>. Anvil is a new line of kettles, burners and accessories from John Blichmann at Blichmann Engineering. They make top quality brewing equipment built to last a lifetime.<\/li>\n<li>Also check out <a href=\"http:\/\/beersmith.com\">BeerSmith<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/beersmith.com\/mobile\">BeerSmith Mobile software<\/a> and the <a href=\"http:\/\/beersmith.com\/dvd\">new DVDs John Palmer and I filmed<\/a> &#8211; How to Brew with Malt Extract and How to Brew All Grain are available now. You can <a href=\"https:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/subscribe\/\">subscribe to the BeerSmith newsletter<\/a> for free to get some great articles on home brewing.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Thanks to John Holl for appearing on the show and also to you for listening!<br \/>\n<strong>iTunes Announcements<\/strong>: I launched a new <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/beersmith-home-beer-brewing\/id824963861\">video channel for the BeerSmith podcast on iTunes<\/a>, so subscribe now! At the moment it will only feature the new widescreen episodes (#75 and up). Older episodes are available on my revamped <a href=\"http:\/\/youtube.com\/mrbeersmith\">Youtube channel<\/a>. Also all of my <a href=\"http:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/podcast\/beersmith-home-brewing-blog\/id398500515\">audio episodes are on iTunes<\/a> now &#8211; so grab the older episodes if you missed any.<\/p>\n<h3>Thoughts on the Podcast?<\/h3>\n<p>Leave me a comment below or visit our <a href=\"http:\/\/beersmith.com\/forum\">discussion forum<\/a> to leave a comment in the podcast section there.<\/p>\n<h3>Subscribe to the Podcast on iTunes or BeerSmith Radio<\/h3>\n<p>You can listen to all of my podcast episodes streaming live around the clock on our <a href=\"http:\/\/BeerSmith.com\/Radio\">BeerSmith Radio<\/a> online radio station! 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