{"id":9084,"date":"2020-12-31T14:00:48","date_gmt":"2020-12-31T19:00:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/?p=9084"},"modified":"2020-12-31T14:00:49","modified_gmt":"2020-12-31T19:00:49","slug":"craft-brewery-operations-with-michael-tonsmeire-beersmith-podcast-228","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/2020\/12\/31\/craft-brewery-operations-with-michael-tonsmeire-beersmith-podcast-228\/","title":{"rendered":"Craft Brewery Operations with Michael Tonsmeire &#8211; BeerSmith Podcast #228"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"float: right; margin-left: 10px;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/share\" class=\"twitter-share-button\" data-via=\"beersmith\" data-count=\"vertical\" data-url=\"https:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/2020\/12\/31\/craft-brewery-operations-with-michael-tonsmeire-beersmith-podcast-228\/\">Tweet<\/a><\/div>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Michael Tonsmeire from Sapwood Cellars joins me this week to discuss some of the less glamorous aspects of running a small craft brewery.<\/p> <div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"200\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/PodNew200.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4522\" srcset=\"https:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/PodNew200.png 200w, https:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/PodNew200-150x150.png 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/figure><\/div> <p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Subscribe on iTunes to <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/beersmith-home-beer-brewing\/id398500515?mt=2\">Audio version <\/a>or <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/beersmith-home-beer-brewing\/id824963861\">Video version<\/a> or <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7vwQRBi8HJBpePV3I7Dpj5\">Spotify <\/a>or <a href=\"https:\/\/playmusic.app.goo.gl\/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&amp;isi=691797987&amp;ius=googleplaymusic&amp;apn=com.google.android.music&amp;link=https:\/\/play.google.com\/music\/m\/Iphebe3merhgcijzboixy7t27ky?t%3DBeerSmith_Home_and_Beer_Brewing_Podcast%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16\">Google Play<\/a><\/strong><\/p> <p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/beersmith\/BSHB-228-Tonsmeire.mp3\">Download the MP3 File<\/a>&#8211; Right Click and <strong>Save As<\/strong> to download this mp3 file.<\/p> <audio controls=\"\"> <source src=\"https:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/secure\/beersmith\/BSHB-228-Tonsmeire.mp3\" type=\"audio\/mpeg\"\/>\nYour browser does not support the audio element.\n<\/audio> <iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/mLhUbCEwiiI\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe> <h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Topics in This Week&#8217;s Episode (57:45)<\/h3> <ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>This week I welcome back Michael Tonsmeire. Michael is the founder of <a href=\"https:\/\/sapwoodcellars.com\/\">Sapwood Cellars<\/a> in Columbia, Maryland as well as author of the book &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3r31StN\">Sour Beers<\/a>&#8221; (Amazon affiliate link) and also the blog <a href=\"https:\/\/www.themadfermentationist.com\/\">The Mad Fermentationist<\/a>.<\/li><li>We start with a short update of how Sapwood Cellars has been adjusting during the pandemic, as we last talked shortly before it started.<\/li><li>Michael next moves to discussing some of the less pleasant aspects of running a commercial brewery which include complying with a web of taxes and regulations.<\/li><li>We talk about the daily logs he maintains to comply with state and federal excise tax laws on alcohol, as well as what is expected in terms of record keeping.<\/li><li>Michael also explains the dozen or so taxes he pays for payroll, income taxes, social security taxes, workman&#8217;s compensation and more.<\/li><li>I ask Michael how he was able to learn about all of the various compliance and tax issues that come up in opening a brewery?<\/li><li>Michael switches gears to talk about an article on his blog titled &#8220;The economics of opening a brewery&#8221;, which explains why the tap room is so important to remaining profitable.<\/li><li>We talk about labeling and packaging and how there are strict requirements for labeling as soon as you start to distribute across a state line.<\/li><li>Michael talks about unusual ingredients and how recipes using certain ingredients need to be approved by the government.<\/li><li>Michael explains where people can learn more about craft brewery startups.<\/li><li>He gives us his closing thoughts on running a brewery day to day.<\/li><\/ul> <h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Sponsors<\/h3> <ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Thank you to our sponsor <a href=\"http:\/\/beerandbrewing.com\">Craft Beer and Brewing Magazine<\/a> for sponsoring this episode. I encourage you to subscribe to their great magazine!<\/li><li>And also <a href=\"http:\/\/anvilbrewing.com\">Anvil Brewing Equipment<\/a>. Anvil is a new line of kettles, burners and accessories from John Blichmann at <a href=\"http:\/\/blichmannengineering.com\">Blichmann Engineering<\/a>. They make top quality brewing equipment built to last a lifetime.<\/li><li>Also check out <a href=\"http:\/\/beersmith.com\">BeerSmith<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/beersmith.com\/mobile\">BeerSmith Mobile software<\/a> and the <a href=\"http:\/\/beersmith.com\/dvd\">new DVDs John Palmer and I filmed<\/a> &#8211; How to Brew with Malt Extract and How to Brew All Grain are available now. You can <a href=\"https:\/\/beersmith.com\/blog\/subscribe\/\">subscribe to the BeerSmith newsletter<\/a> for free to get some great articles on home brewing.<\/li><\/ul> <p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Thanks to Michael Tonsmeire for appearing on the show and also to you for listening!<br \/><strong>iTunes Announcements<\/strong>: I launched a new <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/beersmith-home-beer-brewing\/id824963861\">video channel for the BeerSmith podcast on iTunes<\/a>, so subscribe now! At the moment it will only feature the new widescreen episodes (#75 and up). Older episodes are available on my revamped <a href=\"http:\/\/youtube.com\/mrbeersmith\">Youtube channel<\/a>. 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