Continue yeast re-use or start again??

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Members: I'm a big advocate on collecting my yeast from conical and using it, with washing, up to several batches (with success and never an issue). Maybe from my over confidence, I recently place my America Ale Yeast (collected from previous fermentation) on a 11.5 gal batch without jump starting it with stir plate. The amount of added washed yeast seemed to be consistent with previous batches (pressurized fermentation) so that didn't seem to be the issue. It took 48 hrs to start registering visible pressure, but was only able to reduce SG from 1.048 to 1.019 (not usual from previous use). Not wanting to waste the batch, I added some dry yeast (SafAle) to reach the Beersmith est. of 1.010. Nothing! (1.017).
Finally the Question: I collected the yeast from conical and was wondering if I should re-energize the yeast with a starter (stir plate) to compensate my previous error...or just start over with new yeast. I'm just not sure if my mistake at the beginning was my issue (not initial yeast wake up) or point of no return!
please advise...as alway...thanks for any input!
 
I reuse yeast collected from fermentation but have never had to make a starter with it. Another thing I have never done is wash the collected yeast. An article I saved long ago against washing yeast is pasted below. Another tip for reusing yeast pertains to pitching a new batch of wort on top of a fresh yeast cake is to only use 1/2 to 1/3 of that yeast. Over pitching can result when pitching onto a whole, fresh yeast cake. That method is probably not what you are doing but I thought I'd throw it out there. Sidenote: 1.017 when you are expecting 1.010 is not bad. I wouldn't even think of trying to "fix" that.

Now, the article written by Denny Conn with information from the man known as the "yeast whisperer" Mark Van Ditta...


DON’T WASH/RINSE YOUR YEAST!

Don't rinse your yeast (unless you use acid you're rinsing, not, washing.) Read this...FromMark Van Ditta

Basically, it has always been a bad move that has been difficult to kill because every newbie wants to

gain some street cred by publishing an article on yeast rinsing. Do you want to know where the practice

of rinsing yeast with boiled water originated within the amateur brewing community? Charlie Papazian

introduced it in the “New Complete Joy of Homebrewing” (it may even date back to an earlier

publication of that book). He also promoted the use of a secondary fermentation vessel as a way to

prevent autolysis. While using a secondary fermentation vessel to prevent autolysis has gone the way of

the do-do bird, amateur brewers still cling to yeast rinsing, a practice that is not based on science and

provides no microbiological advantage.

Brewing yeast strains are Crabtree positive. What that means is that whenever the medium gravity is

above the Crabtree threshold of 0.2% w/v (an S.G. of 1.0008), brewing yeast cultures will chose

fermentation over respiration even in the presence of O2. There is scientific evidence that brewing

cultures became Crabtree positive due to competitive pressure. You see, the main reason why we have

cell counts in the first place is that they are primarily a safeguard against a micro-organism other than the

pitched yeast culture owning the wort. From the time a yeast culture is pitched until the culture grows

large enough to reach high krausen, it is in competition for ownership of the wort with wild microflora

(boiled wort is not absolutely sterile and sanitization is not a synonym for sterilization). A yeast culture

owns a batch of wort by doing three things. First, it consumes all of the dissolved O2, shutting out

aerobic microflora. It then lowers the pH to around 4, which shuts out pH sensitive microflora. The pH

sensitive microflora include the pathogen Clostridium botulinum, which cannot replicate below a pH of

4.6. The final defense that a yeast culture mounts is the production of ethanol, which is toxic to all living

organism at a given level, even human beings (i.e., people die from alcohol poisoning every day).

When a brewer rinses yeast with boiled water, he/she removes the protective force field that a yeast

culture built for itself, basically opening it up to infection from house microflora while providing zero

microbiological advantage. A yeast culture does not need to be kept free from trub and hop particulate

matter. It is needs to be kept as free from wild microflora as possible because every time a culture is

pitched it is an opportunity for microflora other than the culture to replicate. This reality is what places

an upper limit on bottom-cropped yeast more so than any other reason when a yeast culture is not

serially overpitched.

Now, top-cropping an interesting take on cropping. While the top-cropped yeast should also be stored

under green beer, top-cropping naturally purifies a yeast culture because wild microflora do not floc to

the top, which means that top-cropped yeast can be re-pitched almost indefinitely as long as care is

taken to not infect the culture. The sad thing is that I have never heard of true top-cropping lager yeast.

If you need further evidence that yeast rinsing an amateur brewer fabrication that is not based on

microbiology, watch how a craft or industrial brewery bottom crops yeast. They either pump it out of

the cone into a yeast brink for temporary storage or into a fermentation vessel with fresh wort. I have

yet to see a professional brewery rinse yeast with water before repitching it.
 
Thanks Kevin: Without sounding like a "true yeast newbie", and reading between the lines on that cool article; am I under the impression that its better to "not" rinse the yeast with clean, cooled, boiled water? Better to place yeast in sterilized canning jar then place in refrigerator, straight from the fermenter? If so, I can do that, but that's only if that seems to be the way I'm interpreting the article....and if so, before canning, should I extract some of the wort that remains on top after setting? AGAIN...thanks!!!
 
Yes, that's what it says. No reading between the lines needed...
When a brewer rinses yeast with boiled water, he/she removes the protective force field that a yeast

culture built for itself, basically opening it up to infection from house microflora while providing zero

microbiological advantage.

The yeast will consume the O2. Homebrewers are aware of this and aerate our wort before pitching yeast to give them all the O2 they need to grow. By consuming O2 the yeast is creating an environment that is not beneficial to the aerobic (oxygen dependent) microflora. The PH of the wort also drops thanks to the yeast which further inhibits those microflora. As yeast are doing that they are also creating alcohol which is another layer of protection keeping out those nasties.

I typically dump yeast from my conical fermenter and split it into two glass mason jars. I leave a layer of beer on top and keep it in the refrigerator for up to two months. That's part of the problem with this method... the yeast will only retain a strong viability for a few month. Two is as long as I keep it. For that reason I am starting to freeze yeast which will last for years. Doing so does involve some specific steps and use of a pressure canner but if you would like to learn more about freezing yeast check out this video...

 
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