i made a clone that turned out well. To make a lager I suggest you select a German Lager Yeast WLP830 German Lager Yeast
This yeast is one of the most widely used lager yeasts in the world. Very malty and clean, great for all German lagers, pilsner, oktoberfest, and marzen.
Attenuation: 74-79%
Flocculation: Medium
Optimum Fermentation Temperature: 50-55°F
Alcohol Tolerance: Medium
For those who have not had Optimator, it is made in Germany by Spaten and available in most stores. It is a Dopplebock meaning it is a traditional lager. My lagering system is not fully operational so I made an ale based on this style. I must say, it was a very good clone. I found it was not carbonated to the level I would expect, so I ended up forcing more CO2 to get it up to about Pilsner level.
Also I have it attached as BSM.
Optimator Ale
Brew Type: All Grain Date: 2/19/2007
Style: Doppelbock Brewer: Kerry
Batch Size: 5.00 gal Assistant Brewer:
Boil Volume: 5.72 gal Boil Time: 60 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.0 % Equipment: Brew Pot 9 Gal
Actual Efficiency: 58.3 %
Taste Rating (50 possible points): 35.0
A classic Dopplebock Lager converted to an ale. Very High malt finish with a touch of hops for a great balance. The orignal beer is made by Spaten of Munchen (Munich) Germany. Considered one of the world's best lagers, if not one of the best beers per
Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.00 lb Light Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 22.2 %
8.50 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 63.0 %
1.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 11.1 %
0.50 lb Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 3.7 %
1.50 oz Hallertauer [4.80%] (60 min) Hops 20.9 IBU
1 Pkgs German Ale/Kolsch (White Labs #WLP029) Yeast-Ale
Beer Profile Estimated Original Gravity: 1.079 SG (1.072-1.120 SG) Measured Original Gravity: 1.070 SG
Estimated Final Gravity: 1.019 SG (1.018-1.030 SG) Measured Final Gravity: 1.015 SG
Estimated Color: 20.8 SRM (6.0-25.0 SRM) Color [Color]
Bitterness: 20.9 IBU (16.0-30.0 IBU) Alpha Acid Units: 1.4 AAU
Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 7.9 % (7.0-12.0 %) Actual Alcohol by Volume: 7.2 %
Actual Calories: 317 cal/pint
Mash Profile Name: My Mash Mash Tun Weight: 0.00 lb
Mash Grain Weight: 10.50 lb Mash PH: 5.4 PH
Grain Temperature: 22.2 C Sparge Temperature: 75.6 C
Sparge Water: 0.00 gal Adjust Temp for Equipment: TRUE
Single Infusion Mash 153F for 60 minutes. Sparge 170 to reach 6.0 gals of wort.
Carbonation and Storage Carbonation Type: Kegged (Forced CO2) Carbonation Volumes: 2.6 (2.3-2.6 vols)
Estimated Pressure: 18.8 PSI Kegging Temperature: 10.0 C
Pressure Used: 12.5 Age for: 4.0 Weeks
Storage Temperature: 10.0 C
Notes
Mash 153 F and Sparge 60 mins 6.0 Gals Water
Add hops and boil 60-70 Mins
Cool to 74F
1 tsp Irish Moss (boil 45 min)
White labs WLP838 Southern German Lager
Boil for 60 minutes. Add Irish moss for last 45 minutes of boil
This beer should be a lager, but I am experimenting an Ale version to see how close to the real thing it comes. Turned out very similar to Optimator.
