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Water profile equations used in BeerSmith?
« on: December 15, 2010, 08:08:45 AM »
Interesting threads beginning to appear over on another forum regarding some of the calculations used by Palmer in his water spreadsheet. I'm not sure which formula is used in BeerSmith, but it appears Palmer's determination of residual alkalinity based on beer color is pretty far off as they assume roasted malts are more acidic. Additionally, the chalk (CaCO3) addition calculation is actually giving the carbonate concentration instead of the bicarbonate concentration.  Since carbonate cannot exist at typical mash pH, it must be converted to the bicarbonate form.
Not a scientist, but the debate is coming from guys with way too many letters after their name.

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Re: Water profile equations used in BeerSmith?
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2010, 08:45:34 AM »
Hi,
  Having just completely rewritten the water profile calculator for the next version of BeerSmith, I can tell you I just checked the numbers again and they are correct within the program.  BeerSmith does track the chalk to bicarbonate (which is pretty easy to see if you look at the water profile tool).  In fact, the BeerSmith tool lists the chemical symbols for the various water additions making it pretty easy to see how they map into ion contributions.

  Also I don't attempt to calculate the residual alkalinity in any of the tools - while some commercial brewers can do this it is hard for a home brewer because they don't often have access to the detailed malt data needed.  These numbers vary a lot from maltster to maltster even for comparable malts.

  You will be happy to know that I've added an automated calculator to the next version which can, given a target and base water profile, calculate the best combination of water additions to get as close as possible to the target.

Cheers,
Brad
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