I verified login several times. That is okay on my end. From my two computers, when I upload the recipe it is put in my cloud list, but it will eventually time out. Sometimes an error message is displayed saying, an error has occurred and then the recipe disappears from the list. Other times, it just disappears from the list. In either case, if I go to another device and check the cloud, the recipe is not there. The recipe never gets uploaded. If I upload to the cloud from my Kindle, which works, I can download to either of my computers. So, the download functions properly. Also, neither computer will automatically update the BeerSmith software. With the two computers, while the uploaded recipe is listed, should I try opening the file, I get an error message, after which the recipe disappears from the list.