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Title: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: GISBREWMASTER on April 26, 2009, 04:15:08 PM
Hi,

  I am thinking about purchasing Beersmith and was wondering if 2.0 was coming out anytime soon.  I would prefer not to buy it and then 2 months later have to by the next major release.

Thanks,
GISBREWMASTER
Matt C.
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Paco_ on July 06, 2009, 03:46:36 PM
Ping!?
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on July 06, 2009, 09:32:16 PM
Hi,
  Still working hard on the new version - looking at late this year or early next year at the earliest.  Lots of work still remaining...

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: MaltLicker on July 07, 2009, 03:01:41 PM
That's good news........work as late as you need to.    ;)
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Chandler McGrew on August 04, 2009, 04:43:50 PM
Brad,
Any word if this new update will include the fix for HMEs?

Chad McGrew
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on August 04, 2009, 10:07:47 PM
Chad,
  My apologies - what is the HME fix??  I just don't recall...

Thanks,
Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Chandler McGrew on October 27, 2009, 11:23:10 AM
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. Apparently this forum doesn't send me email updates on replies!!! Supposedly Beersmith was working on the problem of Hopped (Liquid) Malt Extracts not computing correctly because the hops in the extract had already been boiled and were basically 'boiling' those hops again in the computations.
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Hose a de RR on October 30, 2009, 11:26:58 AM
Will version 2.0 support Windows 7?
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on October 30, 2009, 07:21:30 PM
Hi,
  Yes, in fact I'm doing the development for it now under Windows 7.  However if you download the current version it also will install and work under Windows 7.

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: abraxas on December 29, 2009, 05:04:16 PM
Any estimated release date?

I am also looking to buy Beersmith, just curious if a 2.0 is imminent.

Will there be a reduced upgrade price?

Thanks...
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Birkebryg on January 03, 2010, 06:39:37 AM
May I assume that version 2.0 will be your multi-platform version? I.e. a MAC version is near?
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on January 03, 2010, 10:08:07 AM
Yes,
  BeerSmith 2.0 will be multi-platform.  I have been working hard on it over the holidays but still no release date.  Unfortunately it always seems there is more to do on it, but I'm hoping this will be the year it all gets done.  Ideally I would like to have it out in time for this year's brewing season (perhaps summer).  I am getting close to having an "alpha" version for testing however.

Cheers,
Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: abraxas on January 05, 2010, 07:37:46 PM
Is that a negative on the reduced price for 1.4 purchasers?  I would like to move from PM to BS, but I'd wait for the new version if I'd have to buy 1.4 and 2.0 at full price each.  Maybe a pre-purchase of 2.0 with a complimentary 1.4 offer :)?

Thanks...

Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: ggibbons on January 26, 2010, 04:43:13 AM
Is that a negative on the reduced price for 1.4 purchasers?  I would like to move from PM to BS, but I'd wait for the new version if I'd have to buy 1.4 and 2.0 at full price each.  Maybe a pre-purchase of 2.0 with a complimentary 1.4 offer :)?

Thanks...



I'm in the same boat, like to switch to a program with actual software updates, but I'd hate to pay for something twice within a year's time frame, but I also hate waiting and want beersmith now. Obviously, someone who bought BS a month before me will grumble if I were to get that good of a deal and they had to pay full price for the upgrade, so perhaps a pre-purchase price that is slightly higher than ver1.4 price, or a reduced upgrade price for purchasers who bought within last 6 months could be feasible?
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on January 26, 2010, 07:34:29 AM
I'm thinking of having an upgrade discount price for existing users.  To do it I will need to build some kind of verification method to validate your old registration key.

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: wyzazz on January 27, 2010, 08:57:22 AM
Sounds like a good plan, or even have them show proof of purchase from a qualified vendor?  I just purchased this month and would be really bummed if I had to pay full price for a new version. 

Thanks for all you do in the brewing community!
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: humanjoe on February 10, 2010, 09:30:46 AM
Do you need any additional Alpha or Beta Testers?
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on February 10, 2010, 06:04:26 PM
Not yet, but hopefully soon...still working through the recipe designs.

Cheers,
Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: dracus on February 13, 2010, 02:36:54 AM
Well, I'd be more than happy to give you another 20 something bucks... I love beersmith and I know 2.0 will be even better.
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: jjocsak on February 15, 2010, 10:48:47 AM
Not yet, but hopefully soon...still working through the recipe designs.

Cheers,
Brad

Will there be a call for Alpha/Beta testers?
I would love to test the new version.

Jeff
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on February 15, 2010, 09:22:00 PM
Yes,
  I will likely post the call for testers in the Help in Development section once we are ready.

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: cowstick on February 26, 2010, 08:52:15 AM
Well, I'd be more than happy to give you another 20 something bucks... I love beersmith and I know 2.0 will be even better.

+100000000000000000000

This software has worked wonders for me and my brewing.  Thank you Brad.
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: bspisak on March 03, 2010, 08:00:19 PM
Do you have a list of upcoming changes for the new version?  I know there's been a lot of things floated in the forums and stuff you said you liked and such, but do we have to wait until 2.0 to see if our favorite new feature is being implemented?  If we knew ahead of time, we could try to bribe you with beer to get something in (or offer to help in some other way. ;-)
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: SeanGroves on April 15, 2010, 02:09:27 PM
Brad,

I appreciate your work on BeerSmith and your communication on these forums; it's very cool.

As the OP of the thread was looking for, any idea on when to expect 2.0?

I've recently downloaded 1.4 and enjoy the software and the tools it provides, but as many people, am a bit hesitant to buy given the notion that we could be seeing 2.0 sometime early Summer in just a few months.

Could you provide an update on development?

Thank you!

-Sean
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on April 15, 2010, 10:21:14 PM
Sean,
  Right now I'm looking at late this fall - ideally before Christmas.  There is still some hard work to be done but I'm planning to take a significant chunk of time off soon to dedicate full time to the final push.

  If you are interested in following the release I recommend subscribing to our blog (http://www.beersmith.com/blog/subscribe).  I will be posting details as we get closer to release.

VR
Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: SeanGroves on April 17, 2010, 04:39:04 PM
Brad,

Thanks for the quick reply.

With the release of 2.0, will there be any type of discount available to those who have purchased 2.0? Also, how will the integration with recipes designed and updated databases and such work with upgrading from 1.4 to 2.0?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Smurfe on May 07, 2010, 02:58:35 PM
For those out there concerned about buying the current version and then the new version coming out soon after, relax. Just buy the current version, get used to it and then buy the new version when it comes out. It is well worth even if the new version came out 3 days later. This software is priced WELL below it true value. I actually can not believe these developers price these programs at the pricepoint they do. Hell, I spent $125.00 to fix an old PC laptop JUST so I could keep using this program after I bought Macs for the house. I will buy the Mac version the day it is released (or I find out it is available) at full price without complaint (although a discount would be appreciated) and take it and run. This product IS that important to your brewing. I have said before, I have bought every commercial brewing software product available out there and have been disappointed in one way or another with each. Not so here. As I said, this is one of my most valued and important pieces of brewing equipment.
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on May 07, 2010, 05:55:35 PM
I'm very likely going to offer a discount for a limited time for existing users once the new version comes out.   We'll be posting additional details on our newsletter as we get into testing and closer to release.  I'm taking a significant chunk of time off later in the year to focus full time on the release.

Cheers,
Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: kingwj on May 08, 2010, 09:20:49 AM
The Mac version is awesome.  I can finally dump the windows partition which exists only to run BeerSmith.  Hopefully the Mac version will be able to import my Windows generated recipes.  I'll definitely beta the mac version for you, hell, I'll buy the mac beta version.
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: SeanGroves on May 11, 2010, 12:44:21 PM
I'm very likely going to offer a discount for a limited time for existing users once the new version comes out.   We'll be posting additional details on our newsletter as we get into testing and closer to release.  I'm taking a significant chunk of time off later in the year to focus full time on the release.

Cheers,
Brad

Ok sounds great. I'll be buying the software when I get home from work this evening.

Thanks for the update Brad, much appreciated!
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: The Chadd on June 17, 2010, 09:31:03 AM
Can't wait for the next rev of Beersmith.  Any teasers for the new version yet?  :)
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: neut on July 06, 2010, 12:58:56 PM
Any updates as to when release 2.0 is expected?
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Fauxpas360 on July 14, 2010, 07:01:24 AM
Just wanted to put in $.02 on the new version.  I too *will* be buying Beersmith, but I dont want to waste money buying it twice.  Seems like a bad idea to buy v1.4 now.   :(  I've love to buy 2.0 with downgrade rights....  ;D
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: kc8flq on August 29, 2010, 10:27:36 PM
I'm thinking of having an upgrade discount price for existing users.  To do it I will need to build some kind of verification method to validate your old registration key.

Brad

Do you have records from online purchases? I purchased mine back in 05, still running ver 1.3. I hate paying for something with an upgrade promise, but then change it to include, oh by the way, you need to pay $XX.XX for an upgrade. Makes customer loyalty almost ziltch......
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on September 01, 2010, 08:02:12 PM
I intend to offer a discount for existing users who want to upgrade, and I do have records for all existing users who purchased through our site.

My goal is to have V2.0 released by the end of the year, but it will depend on how the testing goes.  I'm working on it full time about 4 days a week now to finish.

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: jon326 on October 04, 2010, 02:22:55 PM
I intend to offer a discount for existing users who want to upgrade, and I do have records for all existing users who purchased through our site.

My goal is to have V2.0 released by the end of the year, but it will depend on how the testing goes.  I'm working on it full time about 4 days a week now to finish.

Brad

normally i wouldnt pay for upgrades to existing software that i already payed for once, but i highly doubt there will be a big outrage from the brewing community; you're working solo & full time on this, and id gladly pay a little more for the upgrade in lue of all your dedication!
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: ChrisNH on October 13, 2010, 07:55:30 AM
My goal is to have V2.0 released by the end of the year


Perhaps at some point you can offer a deal to allow a free upgrade to 2.0 for new 1.4 purchasers (or a "get 1.4 with a 2.0 pre-buy..). That would certainly get me off the fence since with my tight family budget I cannot buy the software twice, even with an upgrade discount, in the same year.

Regards,

Chris

Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: guinnessbucsgod on October 20, 2010, 08:19:42 AM
Brad,

If you need anymore Beta testers please let me know. I am running 1.4 that was a gift, waiting for 2.0 before I mount a PC on my RIM system.
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: CharlesBoyer on October 20, 2010, 07:10:07 PM
Any hints as to the feature set that the new version will offer?

Been meaning to ask you forever to include an option to show both °F and °C instead of one or the other.  Seems I have a Celsius thermometer for mashing and Farhenheit on all of my other stuff.  Being able to see both on the brewsheets would be awesome.
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: jomebrew on November 06, 2010, 03:18:05 PM
I work in Software QA if you need any QA help.

- jomebrew
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Earthson on November 21, 2010, 11:16:37 AM
 :'( Sorry to be a pain..but any word on when 2.0 version will be ready?  I'm desperate to get it on my MAC.  I'm running parallels, so I could use the PC demo on my Mac for a while, but I'd rather just learn the software once (on my Mac).
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Pontius on December 20, 2010, 03:04:32 AM
My goal is to have V2.0 released by the end of the year, but it will depend on how the testing goes.  I'm working on it full time about 4 days a week now to finish.

Brad

Please Brad.  When is V2.0 ready? 

I have been waiting a long time now and it seems you ignore questions about this, please let us know when it is ready. 

I am on a mac myself and have been waiting a long time on Beersmith for mac now instead of buying another beer software because I figure Beersmith V2.0 will be the best out there.  But I am unable to wait much longer now having being patient and reading in different posts that it hopefully will be out by the end of the year.

Will it?
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Earthson on December 20, 2010, 07:29:27 AM
I emailed Brad, and this is the response I got from him:

Quote
My apologies - I get this question a lot and I appreciate your interest!  

  I'm working 8-10 hours a day programming the next version of BeerSmith which includes the Mac version.  My current schedule is to have a beta out early next month and then set the launch date once we have some of the initial test results.  Since this is a complete rewrite of the program and I have a large user base, I'm not going to rush the release - I want to make sure it is right!

  However, assuming testing goes well, I hope to have it out this Spring including the Mac version.  I have not been talking about it much because I want to get into testing and find out what kind of shape the product is in before I commit to a launch date.  However, if you keep an eye on the site I will have a lot more information about it coming as I get closer to launch.

Cheers!

I'm with you Pontius - can't wait  for the mac release - but I guess we have no choice.  It is better to wait and have an awesome product than getting a half-assed one that'll just have glitches.   :'(  

Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: PintOfBitter on January 12, 2011, 09:18:08 AM
Any update?  Waiting with bated breath...
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: foltster on January 25, 2011, 02:45:31 PM
Hate to be negative, but I have been waiting all fall into winter now to purchase your software.  I can't justify purchasing software I know will be obsolete soon!

Any news on the updated release?

How about giving upgrade protection to new users since the new release appears imminent?

Thanks,
foltster
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Earthson on January 25, 2011, 05:54:01 PM
As a side note, the software runs really well on Crossover Version 8.0. 
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BillN on January 30, 2011, 08:03:10 PM
humble suggestion : Allow someone like me, who just downloaded the trial and wants to buy the full, to pre-buy the new one right now, and allow me access to old one until it comes out.

You could offer a small discount for a pre-sale, which hopefully would get some capital coming your way, and no one would worry about buying out-dated software.

Just an idea......

Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: sergeantstogie on February 10, 2011, 01:42:19 AM
Great idea!!!
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: foltster on February 22, 2011, 12:02:48 PM
* CRICKETS *
 ???

Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BillN on February 24, 2011, 06:51:42 PM
Yeah, really.  I guess the clever marketing strategy worked, I ran out of time on the trial, it was brew day, there goes 22 bucks. 

All in all it's not a lot of money, but I still hope it gives me some benefit when 2.0 arrives.  It's more principle than anything.

Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on February 24, 2011, 09:40:08 PM
Once I have the release date established I will open up a preorder period for those who are interested.  At the moment I've been focusing entirely (like 12+ hours a day - not kidding) on finishing the programming and data.  I'm about to enter testing in the next few weeks and once that has started I should have a much better idea of how much cleanup work remains before setting up the launch date.

I know a lot of people are looking forward to the new version, but I won't release it until its completely ready.  You will get a chance to learn a lot more about it as we get closer to the launch.

Cheers,
Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: sergeantstogie on March 08, 2011, 01:12:34 AM
Frustrating. I was hoping to be able to buy the new version without having to pay full price for the current version only to have the new one follow sometime soon after. But after reading "I’ll be back in a few days with a new podcast and post a new article on a new beer style next week. "  I take that to mean the new version 2.0 is not a priority.
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on March 08, 2011, 06:41:19 AM
Version 2.0 is a priority - I'm spending most of my waking hours on it.  On average I spend 1-3 hours a week on the blog/podcast and the last few weeks I've been spending 10+ hours a day (including weekends) on programming and debugging both on the Mac and PC.  I've written over 56,000 lines of code so far (not including comments) and just started early alpha testing.  I still have a lot of testing to do, a few features to add and the help files to complete, plus some additional work to do on the Mac version.

I know everyone is frustrated.  I'm doing all I can to finish it as soon as possible, but getting it right does take time.  Hopefully it will be worth the wait.

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: 88Q on March 08, 2011, 08:05:33 AM
Brad,

  I wouldn't worry too much about the negativity above.... those of us that have been using BS for any length of time are aware of the value of your time in all you have done. Whatever the wait.... I (we) are sure it will be worth it.

Heck, I don't even care about a "discount" anymore as a previous version owner. It's great at any price. (realistically anyway)

Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Ravn on March 08, 2011, 08:58:21 AM
Hi Brad

Pay no attention to the trolls in this thread. Quality takes time. Personally - I'm glad you're taking a "it's done when it's done" approach. Nothing good comes from rushed products. With a background in video games I have seen time and time again that programming against deadline you cannot possible meet creates some horrible results.

As for programming 10+ hours off day - stop that. You'll get lost in the code. Take your time. All the rushers out there - buy the 1.4 version. It works like a charm, it's cheap and it's here.

Release Version 2.0 when it's good and ready. Keep us updated and don't sweat it - have a home brew.
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: sergeantstogie on March 08, 2011, 10:33:59 AM
You guys are right. I was flicking sh*t at someone who doesnt deserve it and ultimately I know beersmith is the best product out there as I have tried a couple others. I apologize and believe me as soon as I hear 2.0 is available I will buy it.

-Jared
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on March 08, 2011, 03:46:59 PM
Jared,
  No worries - I'm working as hard as I can to make it worth the wait.  The first alpha testers seem to really enjoy the new design.

  I think I was having a bad day as I had just re-read a very negative review someone named "Switchblade McGillicutty" posted regarding my book on Amazon.  In addition to calling me "insecure" because I have a PhD, he apparently thinks I'm soon going to retire in the Bahamas on the massive profits from my new book by pushing BeerSmith.  The guy has no idea that I've been contributing thousands of hours and pages of content (for free) to the brewing community for over 8 years now, or that I published the book at the request of a number of regular blog readers who actually wanted to have the content in print.

  I offered to discuss his concerns offline with him but no reply from him at all. Very frustrating...

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: ECarroll on March 08, 2011, 09:16:07 PM
Hi Brad

As someone that has been in this world a long while, i will tell you one thing and that is you can not make all the people happy all the time, and no matter what you do there will always be one out there that just wants to piss you off. Do not worry about them. Keep up the Good work
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: DVDaniels on March 12, 2011, 07:22:51 PM
Brad,

I am with Ecarroll and the rest on this. The old software has been my mainstay almost since I started homebrewing. I am very appreciative of the time and effort you put in to the original much less the hard work that goes in to writing the code, compiling, and debugging for the new version. It really shows in the final product. One coder to another, your software kicks @$$. <Intentional Misspelling>Nuff sed</Intentional Misspelling>

As far as the blog and other written material, I think you have done an exceptional job on that as well. You have my vote anyway.

Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: kansas_cty_shfl on March 14, 2011, 04:39:22 PM
I love the current version of Beersmith and it has been instrumental over the past year as I've gotten into homebrewing.  I don't even care that I just bought it a few months ago, I'll gladly plunk down more money for a new version.  Also love the "it's ready when it's ready" approach.  There are way too many, significantly more expensive, programs out there that are essentially released unfinished.
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: johnsimmons on March 14, 2011, 04:58:19 PM
ditto to all of the positive comments above - BrewSmith is fantastic - great work Brad!

signed - a fellow (insecure) PhD!
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on March 14, 2011, 05:54:58 PM
Thanks to all!

  I'm actually doing fine now - just had one bad day last week.  I have my second alpha of the PC version out and getting ready to send the early Mac version to a few select testers.

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Ravn on March 15, 2011, 02:47:47 AM
Are you releasing the PC- and the Mac version at the same time or PC then Mac?

Also - It would be great it you could supplement the launch with video tutorials.

Best regards

Kim
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on March 15, 2011, 04:54:01 PM
Kim,
  I intend to release both simultaneously.  I will be doing some videos and tutorials as we get closer to launch.

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Chrisp on March 15, 2011, 07:18:48 PM
Any possibility of a native Linux version?

Thanks,
Chris
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Ravn on March 16, 2011, 03:28:10 AM
Sounds great

I'm really looking forward to it, if you are looking for European alpha/beta-testers (Win7,64) I'd be happy to help.

Kim
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on March 16, 2011, 10:28:11 AM
I have a lot of Mac volunteers lined up already but could use a few more Windows beta testers in a few weeks.  In very early testing on the windows version now and it is going pretty well - the early response has been favorable though I still have much more to do.

If interested - please send an email directly to my beersmith account (@beersmith.com).  I'll take the first 10 volunteers.

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Jeff_18 on March 17, 2011, 06:49:35 PM
Volunteer request sent - Thanks Brad! The 2.0 product sounds very exciting... Can't wait  :)

Jeff
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Wildrover on March 18, 2011, 10:24:46 AM
Jared,
  No worries - I'm working as hard as I can to make it worth the wait.  The first alpha testers seem to really enjoy the new design.

  I think I was having a bad day as I had just re-read a very negative review someone named "Switchblade McGillicutty" posted regarding my book on Amazon.  In addition to calling me "insecure" because I have a PhD, he apparently thinks I'm soon going to retire in the Bahamas on the massive profits from my new book by pushing BeerSmith.  The guy has no idea that I've been contributing thousands of hours and pages of content (for free) to the brewing community for over 8 years now, or that I published the book at the request of a number of regular blog readers who actually wanted to have the content in print.

  I offered to discuss his concerns offline with him but no reply from him at all. Very frustrating...

Brad

As someone who not only has a Ph.D. but also spends his time in the academic world pursuing and disseminating knowledge, I can tell you that I feel your pain.  It's tough having to read the "critique" or "constructive" criticism of your work by people who have no idea how much time, energy, resources, sacrifice and dedication went into it (in my case its the spoiled 18-24 year old millennial who doesn't understand that you don't get an A simply for paying your tuition).  I wish I could say we're all made of Teflon and all the negativity bounces right off but as a human being its tough to read what amounts to little more than anonymous hate mail from people who for whatever reason view you as the enemy despite the fact all you did was your best.  I can say though, that even though I have my share of haters I also have my fans as evidenced by the "best professor ever" and "wish I could have him for every class" comments I also sometimes receive.  I will say that though I don't care to read the negativity I've accepted the fact that its simply part of the job and so long as I'm doing my best there will be those that don't like the results of my effort but there will also be those that do.  That certainly seems to be the truth here and again, when you publish anything, in today's connected world, having to deal with trolls and self-important, self-appointed experts is just part of the job and something you'll have to deal with.  Having said that, given the number of people waiting on the edge of their seat for the newest version, I'd say you're doing a pretty good and for every negative opinion there is AT LEAST 10 that appreciate and applaud your efforts.

$0.02   
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: jjocsak on March 19, 2011, 02:50:56 PM
I'm ready and willing!!!!


I have a lot of Mac volunteers lined up already but could use a few more Windows beta testers in a few weeks.  In very early testing on the windows version now and it is going pretty well - the early response has been favorable though I still have much more to do.

If interested - please send an email directly to my beersmith account (@beersmith.com).  I'll take the first 10 volunteers.

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: crozdog on March 21, 2011, 04:57:48 AM
Hi Brad,

know you're busy finalising things, but wondered if the new version would be available under something like a site license? I ask as I use both PC's & Mac's at home & whilst I'm prepared to pay for an upgrade, would like to use it on both systems.

Thanks for the work you've done todate making beersmith such a useful tool. Looking forward to the next release.

Beers
Crozdog
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: JustinLang on March 22, 2011, 05:49:17 PM
Email sent.  Count me in if you have any further need for testers.

Justin Lang
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: ultravista on March 22, 2011, 08:35:16 PM
Hi Brad, I'll give it a shot too if you still need Windows testers. I'm on Windows 7 Enterprise without SP1 but up to date with patches.
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: denimglen on March 22, 2011, 08:45:51 PM
If you're interested I could have a play with it through Wine on Ubuntu?
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BillN on March 23, 2011, 11:35:21 AM
I don't know if it would be useful to you, I'm a Windows XP user (Serv pk. 3 MCE).

I know I'm a dinosaur and all, but if it would be useful I will Volunteer to be a Beta tester.
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Runenaldo on March 23, 2011, 04:35:13 PM
Will you have to buy a new license key, for the new 2.0 version?  :)
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: suorama on March 24, 2011, 07:12:23 AM
Hmm. just wondering if new BeerSmith have a tool to plan parti-gyle (or party-gyle) beers too...

BTW. did You get enough volunteers yet? ;)

And is there any possibilities to new version on this year...

Ari
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: davelouw on March 26, 2011, 04:47:25 PM
  I think I was having a bad day as I had just re-read a very negative review someone named "Switchblade McGillicutty" posted regarding my book on Amazon.  In addition to calling me "insecure" because I have a PhD, he apparently thinks I'm soon going to retire in the Bahamas on the massive profits from my new book by pushing BeerSmith.  The guy has no idea that I've been contributing thousands of hours and pages of content (for free) to the brewing community for over 8 years now, or that I published the book at the request of a number of regular blog readers who actually wanted to have the content in print.

  I offered to discuss his concerns offline with him but no reply from him at all. Very frustrating...

Brad

Brad,
I posted a follow up on the comments on that review.  Keep up the good work on the software and other efforts.  You're an asset to the homebrewing community.

Dave.
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: kl on March 27, 2011, 09:33:44 AM
Hi Brad, I'd be happy to do some testing if needed.  Windows XP SP3.
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: category14 on April 04, 2011, 11:38:44 AM
There has been a lot of volunteers to help test the new version but I am willing to help test also.  I have several Win 7 SP1 machines and WinXP SP3.
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: mabaty on April 04, 2011, 06:28:08 PM
Any word if 2.0 will have UI updates?
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: thatguy314 on April 09, 2011, 04:15:54 PM
I have a lot of Mac volunteers lined up already but could use a few more Windows beta testers in a few weeks.  In very early testing on the windows version now and it is going pretty well - the early response has been favorable though I still have much more to do.

If interested - please send an email directly to my beersmith account (@beersmith.com).  I'll take the first 10 volunteers.

Brad

I've been checking this thread weekly for months... and then I get busy at work and look what I miss!

Brad, I've got Windows XP and Vista computers at my house and would be happy to check it out if you need any windows testers.  Otherwise, I'm pretty sure I'll just be lining up to buy.  Thanks for all the great work!
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: bearymore on April 13, 2011, 04:30:23 PM
Brad,

I'm using 1.4 using Wine under Opensuse Linux 11.4. If you need someone to beta test 2.0 under the same setup, I'd be happy to volunteer.
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on April 14, 2011, 01:01:07 PM
Any word if 2.0 will have UI updates?

Yes - it is a complete redesign of the UI (basically from scratch).  I've tried to maintain enough of the original to keep it familiar to existing users but I've significantly updated the look and feel and also added a greatly enhanced ability to work with multiple tools and recipes at once.

I'll be posting some screen shots and first look's on the forum and blog in the next few weeks, with videos to follow after that.

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: jh_homebrew on April 15, 2011, 08:19:41 AM
Does anyone know if there will be an upgrade price if you already have the older version of Beersmith. 
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Half-mine on April 17, 2011, 02:31:49 AM
New to the forums and didn't find an email address to offer beta testing if still needed. I've been a long time user of beer smith and would like to help in any way to get 2.0 up and running!
Title: Beersmith: What is it worth to you?
Post by: gordvan on April 18, 2011, 12:57:05 AM
Brad
I can't wait toll 2.0 is ready!

I don't think you have said too much about pricing.
I see most comments here are hoping for a free upgrade.
Please don't short change yourself.
if you charge too little, it will reduce it's value for you to continue
to keep this the most up to date and supported software on the market.
this is not an update but a complete re-write.

I think you should charge at least $50 for this release maybe more. regardless of previous versions owned.
then perhaps reduce the price each year back to the 20 ish range over several years.
I don' have a job now and my savings are down to nill but I would still pay for this software.

I know the work involved in a project like this is tremendous.
I want you to continue to support this software in the future, and listen to users as you always have.
but if people don't value it themselves with their pocket book there is no reason for you to do so.
( I think this is why the 'other' software packages are no longer updated.)

another possible pricing strategy would be charge less but more often.
charge 20 for every point release.

perhaps you could charge professional brewers more. after all I know several who use your software and are making good money.

Just wanted to let you know that some do value all the work you have done.
If I paid $20 for a brewpot or burner I would expect it to be junk.
I know your software isn't junk.

Gordon
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BrewerBC on April 18, 2011, 09:06:03 AM
Hay Brad,
Glad to here that the new version will be able to run multiple tools at once. Keep up the great work. Cheers!
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: EJMBrewingCo on April 20, 2011, 12:36:12 PM
Not to spoil it, but 2.0 is freaking sweet.  It's well worth the wait, the UI looks very modern, but like Brad said, a lot of the buttons and such are in the same areas.

Can't wait for this to go into production.  I don't care if you give discounts to previous version purchasers, It's worth it to me to buy the new version! 
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: fireantz on May 01, 2011, 04:13:06 PM
Is there any updated ETA on when it will be done...or at least some screenshot maybe?
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on May 02, 2011, 10:50:03 AM
Check the blog - I will be posting screen shots today.

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: ultravista on May 02, 2011, 12:53:32 PM
Brad - do you have all of the beta testers needed? I am running Windows 7 Enterprise.
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on May 02, 2011, 10:37:44 PM
Posted some early images here for you to enjoy:

   http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2011/05/02/beersmith-2-0-a-first-look/

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: sergeantstogie on May 04, 2011, 06:04:52 AM
Great news! Looks good. Count me in as a preorder for sure!
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: adurotec on May 10, 2011, 04:07:12 PM
I purchased v1.4 maybe 2 months ago, any chance of a credit toward 2.0 for anyone who recently purchased it?
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on May 10, 2011, 09:28:44 PM
Hi,
  Yes - I will have a separate upgrade policy for recent purchasers.

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: tmc32 on May 11, 2011, 07:20:17 AM
Thank you, Brad.
I was wondering the same thing.  As a recent new user I am still learning v1.4, but really looking forward to the upgrade.
Tim
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: maddspoiler on May 13, 2011, 05:11:42 PM
What do you mean by recent purchasers? 6 months? A year or less? Bought mine last August or September. No worries though, I'd pay twice what I did for the 1.4 version ;)
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Rootvonroot on May 16, 2011, 01:36:20 PM
ah man .... I'm giddy with anticipation - can't wait to get my hands on BS 2.0!
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on May 16, 2011, 10:19:43 PM
I'll open the preorder shortly - just trying to build the order pages and some videos to go with it. 

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Runenaldo on May 18, 2011, 10:05:51 AM
Any news regarding 2.0?

especially - are you designing a new website aswell, or is it only the order page?

looking forward to preordering
 :)
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Jafo28 on May 18, 2011, 03:48:04 PM
Brad will an e-mail be sent when pre-ordering will be available.
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on May 19, 2011, 11:35:59 AM
The preorder is open now:

http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2011/05/19/beersmith-2-release-date-pricing-and-preorder/

Cheers,
Brad
   
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: adam01 on May 20, 2011, 10:03:48 AM

Can I make a preorder for the (forthcoming) Linux (native) version ?

   Adam

Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: Tristan on May 25, 2011, 07:01:52 PM

Can I make a preorder for the (forthcoming) Linux (native) version ?

   Adam



Is a native Linux version planned for release?
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on May 25, 2011, 07:33:09 PM
Hi,
  I'm not making any promises regarding a native Linux version until I have the time to actually compile and run it.  However, it is (theoretically) possible to recompile BeerSmith 2.0 to run on Linux.  I won't start this project until after the release, if there is sufficient demand.

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: brewtime on May 27, 2011, 08:48:55 AM
by chance will this run on an iPad  ;D
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: wactuary on May 27, 2011, 01:18:54 PM
Hi,
  I'm not making any promises regarding a native Linux version until I have the time to actually compile and run it.  However, it is (theoretically) possible to recompile BeerSmith 2.0 to run on Linux.  I won't start this project until after the release, if there is sufficient demand.

Brad

+1 for Linux native version.
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: logman on May 29, 2011, 11:26:47 PM
Hi,

I am eligible for the free upgrade as I purchased it in March - sent my email using the online form ten days ago and haven't heard back - does that sound right or should I submit the form again.

Just don't want to forget and miss out....
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on May 30, 2011, 10:44:33 AM
Hi,
  I have not sent out the upgrades yet but will be doing so in the next few days.  I have been trying to clean up a few lingering bugs and get the web revisions for 2.0 done (a big project). 

  You'll be getting a key shortly if you submitted a form.

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: racin_ny on June 05, 2011, 07:50:57 PM
I'd be interested in the Linux version I run it now on Linux using Wine
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: beercheer4me on September 20, 2011, 07:17:23 PM
Kinda wanting to know this myself,,,,
Would be great to take iPad to the garage on brew day to enter data
Cool it would make taking notes and Ect helpful
is it a hard thing to do Brad ?
Just wounding
Thanks
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: BeerSmith on September 21, 2011, 08:48:10 AM
Hi,
  The Linux version would be relatively easy - a matter of recompiling and testing under something like Ubuntu.  I'm sure some debugging would be involved - probably a few weeks worth of work.

  The iPad version is a larger project as the iPhone IOS is not the same as their Mac OSX.  I intend to look at it soon after I get the next set of updates for BeerSmith 2 out.  Not sure yet how much would need to be completely rewritten for the iPad/iPhone. 

Brad
Title: Re: Beersmith 2.0
Post by: beercheer4me on September 25, 2011, 07:25:52 PM
Hi Brad
I am not pushing the issue , just wondering thats all
John