I started brewing in 2000, doing 5 gallon batches exclusively. Anymore I am working on downsizing to 1-2 gallon batches - because my wife and I are full-time RV people. There is NOT a lot of room for larger batches. These past 2 yrs I have only done 1 batch and trashed the kitchen...So (yes dear! -- as I said to my wife), I am now working on an outdoor set-up.