I'm working on scaling my homebrew recipes up for use very soon on a 5bbl commercial system. I have researched and read the many things around steep/whirlpool utilization, and the changes to Beersmith the last few years to help calculate this.
My question is: When setting up my equipment profile for the 5bbl, I have filled in 30 minutes under "Whirlpool/Steep Hop Utilization" (my best guess as to average whirlpool/knockout through HX time) and I have checked "Estimate Boil Hop Util in Whirlpool". Which is great - I do believe in some return from under-utilized boil hops when subject to a long whirlpool above iso temps (although somewhat diminished the longer it was in the boil, and any drop in temp) and I do believe in IBU contribution from flameout additions when subject to a long, hot whirlpool (although not as effective as the boil). I don't really want to delve into the merits and intricacy of the formulas used in the program to calculate all this, but rather I am trying to figure out which part of the software is affecting the numbers: The default whirlpool time set in the equipment profile; or the whirlpool time set in the individual recipe; or maybe, as it seems, both are working together?
eg. 60 minute boil addition. 5 minute boil addition. And flameout steep/whirlpool addition, set in the recipe for 10 minutes.
If I understand correctly: The software will calculate traditional boil contributions of the 60 and 5 minute additions, and in addition, calculate any (diminished but apparent) utilization of those additions in the whirlpool. Awesome.
Perhaps this particular beer is a light flavored but hoppy beer, and I don't want an extended whirlpool time, which is why I set my recipe whirlpool to 10 minutes. But my equip profile is set to 30 minutes until knockout. Which length of time entry is the software drawing from? It seems to me that it is using both: it's assuming I turn off my flame, wait 20 minutes, then add my whirlpool hops for 10 minutes, with a total of 30 minutes (as per the equipment profile). In reality I'll always add my whirlpool hops straight away at flameout.
Do I have to manually change my equip profile each time I brew a different style that may have differinbg whirlpool times, so as to ensure that whirlpool additions always begin at flameout, and are only in for as long as I specify in my recipe, not my equip profile?
Hopefully I didn't repeat myself too much. And I did read many articles and posts on similar matters, but none quite answered my question. Looking forward to suggestions, particularly the software designers thoughts.
Cheers
My question is: When setting up my equipment profile for the 5bbl, I have filled in 30 minutes under "Whirlpool/Steep Hop Utilization" (my best guess as to average whirlpool/knockout through HX time) and I have checked "Estimate Boil Hop Util in Whirlpool". Which is great - I do believe in some return from under-utilized boil hops when subject to a long whirlpool above iso temps (although somewhat diminished the longer it was in the boil, and any drop in temp) and I do believe in IBU contribution from flameout additions when subject to a long, hot whirlpool (although not as effective as the boil). I don't really want to delve into the merits and intricacy of the formulas used in the program to calculate all this, but rather I am trying to figure out which part of the software is affecting the numbers: The default whirlpool time set in the equipment profile; or the whirlpool time set in the individual recipe; or maybe, as it seems, both are working together?
eg. 60 minute boil addition. 5 minute boil addition. And flameout steep/whirlpool addition, set in the recipe for 10 minutes.
If I understand correctly: The software will calculate traditional boil contributions of the 60 and 5 minute additions, and in addition, calculate any (diminished but apparent) utilization of those additions in the whirlpool. Awesome.
Perhaps this particular beer is a light flavored but hoppy beer, and I don't want an extended whirlpool time, which is why I set my recipe whirlpool to 10 minutes. But my equip profile is set to 30 minutes until knockout. Which length of time entry is the software drawing from? It seems to me that it is using both: it's assuming I turn off my flame, wait 20 minutes, then add my whirlpool hops for 10 minutes, with a total of 30 minutes (as per the equipment profile). In reality I'll always add my whirlpool hops straight away at flameout.
Do I have to manually change my equip profile each time I brew a different style that may have differinbg whirlpool times, so as to ensure that whirlpool additions always begin at flameout, and are only in for as long as I specify in my recipe, not my equip profile?
Hopefully I didn't repeat myself too much. And I did read many articles and posts on similar matters, but none quite answered my question. Looking forward to suggestions, particularly the software designers thoughts.
Cheers