Pale Ales, IPAs and Brewing Water with John Palmer – BeerSmith Podcast #284

by Brad Smith on July 7, 2023 · 2 comments

This week I welcome back John Palmer to discuss English and American Pale Ales and IPAs and how water shapes the flavor of these beers.

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Topics in This Week’s Episode (50:54)

  • This week I welcome back John Palmer. John is the author of the top selling book How to Brew as well as Water and Brewing Classic Styles (full disclosure: Amazon affiliate links used for books). John joins me this week to talk about water in beer.
  • We talk about some of the new projects John has been working on the last 9 months.
  • John starts with a discussion about the classic English Bitters style and how it was shaped by London water.
  • We discuss “Burtonizing” water and how the waters of Burton on Trent created a unique group of pale ales in England.
  • John switches over to American Pale Ale and discusses how we “Americanized” the traditional English style using different yeast and hop varieties, as well as changes in water.
  • We next discuss traditional English as well as modern American Craft IPAs and how they are different including their water profiles.
  • John talks about how water is now adjusted for American IPAs and how it is a different approach than traditional “match a city” water adjustment.
  • We discuss Hazy New England IPAs and how their water profile is actually almost the opposite of a regular Craft IPA. This water is adjusted to create a softer, rounder profile in the beer.
  • John summarizes water profiles for the various styles we discussed and talks about where we might be going next.


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Matt Misfeldt September 4, 2023 at 4:39 pm

Enjoyed the discussion. We are always learning and refining our knowledge. The discussion on traditional styles and water is always a great subject. Good to hear from John Palmer again. Thanks for the episode!!

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Matt Misfeldt September 4, 2023 at 4:41 pm

Great to hear from John Palmer again. Always enjoy discussions on beer styles and water. Knowledge on historical styles and application of water chemistry is a fun topic.

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